#BigBible #SatSess “Reading Genesis 1 in an Age of Science” with David Wilkinson

#BigBible #SatSess

A collection of some of the conversation from this morning’s session on ‘Reading Genesis 1 in a Scientific Age’ (there’s a bit more from the chat, but I saved that on the College servers!).

Storified by Dr Bex Lewis· Sat, Feb 02 2013 07:51:55

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@heatherstanley_ @drbexl Perhaps we should be inclusive for intelligent people ;-)Andrew Cashmore
RT @heatherstanley_: @drbexl I saw a tweet recently saying intelligence isn’t a gift listed in the bible so we shouldn’t care about it! Scary path that way lies.colin waldock
RT @bigbible: People afraid to ask questions about ‘doubts’ in case look unspiritual – we should ask questions! #bigbibleAndrew Cashmore
RT @bigbible: Should be ‘questioning Thomas’ rather than ‘Doubting Thomas’ #bigbibleAndrew Cashmore
RT @bigbible: The God that we see in Jesus would do what’s necessary #bigbibleClive Lawrinson
RT @bigbible: Genesis 1 – tapestry of lots of different threads, beautiful, but therefore difficult to interpret #bigbibleJames Byers
OK, will storify later – #bigbible – now off for chats, online stuff, etc.. will be talking at Hand in Hand via Skype later…Dr Bex Lewis
RT @LSTheology: #bigbible Why create so many stars / galaxies? Our God is an extravagant creator – He loves to create! @bigbible @LSTheologyDavid Irala
RT @bigbible: Days in Genesis not days of creation, but days of revelation #bigbible – change of translation ‘made known’ rather than ‘created’ …Bryony Taylor
Not looking to merge science & Genesis – but can help in understanding of the other #bigbibleDr Bex Lewis
RT @bigbible: Days in Genesis not days of creation, but days of revelation #bigbible – change of translation ‘made known’ rather than ‘created’ …LST
Genesis 1 – tapestry of lots of different threads, beautiful, but therefore difficult to interpret #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
RT @bigbible: Days in Genesis not days of creation, but days of revelation #bigbible – change of translation ‘made known’ rather than ‘created’ …colin waldock
How old is the universe? #bigbibleDr Bex Lewis
David’s favoured option #bigbible – "what kind of literature is this?" it’s complicated… inc. poetry, theology, liturgy, historyThe BigBible Project
RT @drbexl: Does it change anything if we find other beings like us/bit like us? #bigbible – if God extravagent creativity may be others in universe..Adam Brooks
@drmoose this one #bigbible http://www.amazon.co.uk/Case-Conscience-James-Blish/dp/0099063700/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359806230&sr=8-1Dr Bex Lewis
Days in Genesis not days of creation, but days of revelation #bigbible – change of translation ‘made known’ rather than ‘created’ …The BigBible Project
Miller argued that the days in Genesis are really bigger periods of time #bigbible are series of ages … was widely accepted…The BigBible Project
RT @BrandlshmMthdst: @heatherstanley_ @drbexl Too easy to give trite answers to serious questions by enquirers into Christianity – intelligent answers are neededSteven Maxson
RT @BrandlshmMthdst: @heatherstanley_ @drbexl Too easy to give trite answers to serious questions by enquirers into Christianity – intelligent answers are neededHeather Stanley
RT @bigbible: Should be ‘questioning Thomas’ rather than ‘Doubting Thomas’ #bigbiblecolin waldock
RT @bigbible: People afraid to ask questions about ‘doubts’ in case look unspiritual – we should ask questions! #bigbiblecolin waldock
RT @bigbible: Are there ‘Jesus events’ on other planets? #bigbible – a really interesting question – would God become incarnate in other worlds…colin waldock
Mention of ‘gap theory’ – http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c003.html #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
RT @bigbible: Did Adam had a naval/belly button? #bigbible – special creation by God with no ancestors…bucth
Did Adam had a naval/belly button? #bigbible – special creation by God with no ancestors…The BigBible Project
Lots of science/theology debates holding onto 100% "our argument is right and other side is wrong" … #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
RT @heatherstanley_: @drbexl wonderful reference. Ps8 close ties with creation epic #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
#bigbible Interpretation of Genesis in regard to evolution… Is Genesis a scientific textbook like ‘creation science’ claims?LST
The God that we see in Jesus would do what’s necessary #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
Are there ‘Jesus events’ on other planets? #bigbible – a really interesting question – would God become incarnate in other worlds…The BigBible Project
Partly comes back to question as to how we define intelligence #bigbibleDr Bex Lewis
@drbexl wonderful reference. Ps8 close ties with creation epicHeather Stanley
Does it change anything if we find other beings like us/bit like us? #bigbible – if God extravagent creativity may be others in universe..Dr Bex Lewis
19th C UK – few leading Christians who are 6 day creationists… most were fairly relaxed at time of Darwin #bigbibleDr Bex Lewis
RT @bigbible: Should be ‘questioning Thomas’ rather than ‘Doubting Thomas’ #bigbibleBrandlshm Methdst Ch
Darwinism – the theory of natural selection, or what happened post-Darwin; science used to justify philosophical interpretation #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
RT @lstheology: Take delight in the creation – it’s part of being human – @bigbible @LSTheology #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
People afraid to ask questions about ‘doubts’ in case look unspiritual – we should ask questions! #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
Should be ‘questioning Thomas’ rather than ‘Doubting Thomas’ #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
Take delight in the creation – it’s part of being human – @bigbible @LSTheology #bigbibleLST
Meditating upon, taking delight in science, etc Psalm 8 – bit of response to @heatherstanley_ scary point #bigbibleDr Bex Lewis
David W agrees Duggie Dug Dug show "Crazy Science" #bigbible – science can be fun…Dr Bex Lewis
RT @bigbible In an over-medicalised world – esp begin/end of life, as neuroscience grown – what does it mean to be human #bigbiblematthew currey
The message of 24/7 Christianity coming from David Wilkinson – what do in church Sunday/office Monday equally important #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
@heatherstanley_ v scary – God gave us intelligence, skills, etc. for a reason – we should use them all well #bigbibleDr Bex Lewis
To be human – created in image of God – given intimate relationship with God, to be able to share creativity with God #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
In an over-medicalised world – esp begin/end of life, as neuroscience grown – what does it mean to be human #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
Some ideas of our created world – like a divine Downton Abbey – God’s upstairs to be waited on by those downstairs… #bigbibleLST
@drbexl …had lots of explosions of chemicals etc and let them see that science and God aren’t incompatibleEd Ross
@drbexl took our youth group to a Duggie Dug Dug show "Crazy Science" last night-it was great: teaching young kids God made the worldEd Ross
Human beings given unique responsibility in the earth – defines what it means to be human #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
@drbexl shame – next lesson just starting. Brilliant topic, & yes, I do think really crucial stuff.Toby Edward Carson
@drbexl what prompted twitter 2b debating this?Toby Edward Carson
Churches sometimes over intellectual or simplistic level teaching… / Interpreting bible can take a bit of time but is worth it! #bigbibleLST
God wants to be in a relationship – will initiate – with each of us individually #bigbible as we reject him he will redeem us…The BigBible Project
Lots of ideas of created world – like divine Downton Abbey – God’s upstairs lounging around to be waited on by those downstairs #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
RT @LSTheology: #bigbible #saturdaysession bringing in new people to @LSTheology / to engage with God – somebody just signed up to study here!pmphillips
Dangers of anti-intellectualism – we don’t want to engage with these questions #bigbibleDr Bex Lewis
Can the Christian faith at times become TOO intellectual? #bigbible – ‘cosmological/design’ argument became basis of faith in past…Dr Bex Lewis
If you’re enjoying this month’s #bigbible – next month will be ‘The Trinity in the Bible’ by @Atkinson9W from @LSTheologyLST
RT @lstheology: #bigbible #saturdaysession bringing in new people to @LSTheology / 2engage with God – somebody just signed up to study here!The BigBible Project
If you’re enjoying this month’s #bigbible – next month will be ‘the trinity in the bible’ from @LSTheologyThe BigBible Project
Lots of people ARE concerned about origins of the world says David… see interest in Dawkins/new athiesm, etc #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
#bigbible #saturdaysession bringing in new people to @LSTheology / to engage with God – somebody just signed up to study here!LST
@drbexl exactly! In him we live and move and have our being! Under and over and in and through all – not hiding in some gap!Gerrarrdus
Laing Lecture 2012 – London School of TheologyThis lecture examined some of the implications of modern scientific cosmology for Christian faith – in particular the issues of the age a…
Do you care about origins of the world? Often a hot potato – creation/evolution – is it black & white? #bigbibleDr Bex Lewis
#bigbible @mad_pieman but I think part of this argument is that creation is evidence of God’s love, and should not be hierarchy of occpns.The BigBible Project
#bigbible Why create so many stars / galaxies? Our God is an extravagant creator – He loves to create! @bigbible @LSTheologyLST
God also an artist – loves diversity … #bigbible – #Genesis 1 a long chapter to read so churches often skip, need whole…The BigBible Project
RT @pmphillips: David Wilkinson currently exploring Science and Faith #bigbible #satsess http://dbs-webconf.dur.ac.uk/join_meeting.html?meetingId=1260825188520LST
RT @pmphillips: David Wilkinson currently exploring Science and Faith #bigbible #satsess http://dbs-webconf.dur.ac.uk/join_meeting.html?meetingId=1260825188520The BigBible Project
As a church leader how much do you affirm the scientists, etc. in your congregation #bigbible // I think @ccwinch is doing something likeThe BigBible Project
David Wilkinson currently exploring Science and Faith #bigbible #satsess http://dbs-webconf.dur.ac.uk/join_meeting.html?meetingId=1260825188520pmphillips
To be a scientist/engineer/technologist – is to use/understand the order that God has made sense #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
Challenge to churches who often forget close relationship between science & faith #bigbible – is seen as a scale of holiness [@liccltd]Dr Bex Lewis
RT @drbexl: Not bound by human logic – an experimental tradition http://ow.ly/i/1sBt6 #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
Not bound by human logic – an experimental tradition http://ow.ly/i/1sBt6 #bigbibleDr Bex Lewis
The 7 days of the creation of the world – a logical order of creation. #bigbible http://ow.ly/i/1sBsc #satsessDr Bex Lewis
The 7 days of the creation of the world – a logical order of creation. #bigbible http://ow.ly/i/1sBsc #satsessThe BigBible Project
RT @drbexl: You can still join #bigbible http://dbs-webconf.dur.ac.uk/join_meeting.html?meetingId=1260825188520pmphillips
Underlying order of passage – 7 days, 7 reappears frequently in the Bible … #bigbibleDr Bex Lewis
Every moment of time is dependent on God – #bigbible speaker is astrophysicist & theologian is – science ‘thinking God’s thoughts after Him’LST
God is a sole creator – rather than stopping progress of science, encourages more engagement with his work – understand it more. #bigbibleDr Bex Lewis
You can still join #bigbible http://dbs-webconf.dur.ac.uk/join_meeting.html?meetingId=1260825188520Dr Bex Lewis
You can still join #bigbible http://dbs-webconf.dur.ac.uk/join_meeting.html?meetingId=1260825188520The BigBible Project
God doesn’t hide in small gaps – he’s the creator of all/everything in the universe #bigbible – and present at all times…Dr Bex Lewis
When science finds a gap, fills with God… ‘deism’ – idea that God created the universe then popped off for coffee #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
If God created the universe – who created God? #bigbible – argument has 2 major problems – ‘god of the gaps’ …The BigBible Project
RT @LSTheology: #bigbible Discussion now – who ‘lit the blue touch paper to cause the Big Bang?’ @bigbible @LSTheologyMatt Adcock
RT @lstheology: #bigbible Discussion now – who ‘lit the blue touch paper to cause the Big Bang?’ @bigbible @LSTheologyDr Bex Lewis
RT @lstheology: #bigbible Discussion now – who ‘lit the blue touch paper to cause the Big Bang?’ @bigbible @LSTheologyThe BigBible Project
RT @bigbible: So here’s a screenshot/quote from this morning’s session with David Wilkinson #bigbible http://ow.ly/i/1sBn5LST
#bigbible Discussion now – who ‘lit the blue touch paper to cause the Big Bang?’ @bigbible @LSTheologyLST
RT @bigbible: RT @bigbible David Wilkinson has started – join us – http://ow.ly/hm4WE #bigbiblematthew currey
So here’s a screenshot/quote from this morning’s session with David Wilkinson #bigbible http://ow.ly/i/1sBn5The BigBible Project
Now rocking serious models of physics / but they break down just as approach the ‘big bang’ Quantum Theory vs General Relativity #bigbibleLST
Current models very good at explaining physics, but explanations break down.. #bigbibleDr Bex Lewis
The ‘big bang theory’ … the whole universe was small enough to fit through the eye of a needle then expanded/cooled… #bigbibleDr Bex Lewis
This is #bigbible – one of the understatements of the bible ‘He made sun / moon and by the way He made the (hundred billion) stars also!?’LST
"By the way" #Genesis – God made the stars … amazing throwaway comment – are 100 billion squared… #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
in session #bigbible http://via.me/-9cii8m8Dr Bex Lewis
The word creation used in Genesis 1:1, 16 and 21 #bigbible – why is God interested in the ‘creatures of the sea’The BigBible Project
RT @drbexl: Should text dominate our reading of science, or science dominate our understanding of Genesis? More messy than that #bigbibleLST
RT @bigbible David Wilkinson has started – join us – http://ow.ly/hm4WE #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
#bigbible @eddieizzard @daraobriain @rickygervais all use Genesis in their stand up material – we should know the text and interpretation…LST
Important in all debates: God is the sole creator of the universe #bigbible Gen 1:1 "In the beginning God created heavens/earth"The BigBible Project
So concerned about details – e.g. age of the universe – miss big theological themes that span scripture #bigbible #genesisThe BigBible Project
We’re clearly testing the software to it’s limits today …. thank goodness David is a flexible presenter #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
Not just on the authority of scripture, but also the interpretation of scripture #bigbible "not just I believe/don’t"The BigBible Project
Will see if we can get the link to Dara O’Briean (sp?) video to add to Storify later #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
RT @bigbible: David Wilkinson has started – join us – http://ow.ly/hm4WE #bigbibleLST
#bigbible #saturdaysession is now live – Reading / understanding Genesis 1 in a world dominated by science @bigbible @LSTheologyLST
David Wilkinson has started – join us – http://ow.ly/hm4WE #bigbibleThe BigBible Project
Should text dominate our reading of science, or science dominate our understanding of Genesis? More messy than that #bigbibleDr Bex Lewis
Let’s start at the very beginning says Julie Andrews… #bigbible – so Genesis a good place 2 start, but is throughout Bible David WilkinsonDr Bex Lewis
RT @LSTheology: It’s a #BigBible Saturday today – live in Durham, streamed to @LSTheology – get some more bible in your life! @bigbible http://www.lst.ac.uk/news-and-events/1/post/98The BigBible Project
RT @bigbible: This morning it’s #bigbible # satsess with David Wilkinson speaking on Genesis in an age of science http://po.st/3TUlJX/ – join us onlineMatt Adcock
RT @bigbible: This morning it’s #bigbible # satsess with David Wilkinson speaking on Genesis in an age of science http://po.st/3TUlJX/ – join us onlineDr Bex Lewis
This morning it’s #bigbible # satsess with David Wilkinson speaking on Genesis in an age of science http://po.st/3TUlJX/ – join us onlineThe BigBible Project
RT @LSTheology: It’s a #BigBible Saturday today – live in Durham, streamed to @LSTheology – get some more bible in your life! @bigbible http://www.lst.ac.uk/news-and-events/1/post/98matthew currey
It’s a #BigBible Saturday today – live in Durham, streamed to @LSTheology – get some more bible in your life! @bigbible http://www.lst.ac.uk/news-and-events/1/post/98LST
‘Reading Genesis in a World Dominated by Science’ #BigBible, #SatSess http://tinyurl.com/ammjk9d via @bigbible // TOMORROWThe BigBible Project
Page edited: #BigBible ‘Saturday Sessions’ http://j.mp/Rx5Cz8The BigBible Project
So, later today @Unshaunsheep gives us a ‘breathless swim through the New Testament’ … #bigbible #digidiscipleThe BigBible Project
RT @atkinson9w: #BigBible talk this Saturday. Durham/London. Listen in. http://lst.ac.uk.The BigBible Project
@richardclarkson read the intro and check out #bigbible @drbexlClaire Maxim
#BigBible talk this Saturday. Durham/London. Listen in. http://lst.ac.uk.William Atkinson
‘Reading Genesis in a World Dominated by Science’ #BigBible, #SatSess http://tinyurl.com/ammjk9d via @bigbible // now with added location #dohThe BigBible Project

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